The Cult of Calvary Chapel 8/21/12

……. aka: Chuck’s Church………….ok, ………………………….. by now I can imagine your thinking “this guy is either nuts or on a personal vendetta …………………. now he’s going after Calvary Chapel, what the hell did they do ‘AND’ what the hell do they have to do with the C.I.A.”………. ?

Answer:

  • a) “ I’m not nuts, …………… however ‘my nuts’ have taken a beating over the years…. lol

  • b) “no, I’m not on a vendetta, however when you read what follows, you could see “it would be an appropriate response”

  • c) It has a lot to do with the C.I.A. ……… consider this statement; “ with the Central Intelligence Agency, ALL INTELLIGENCE IS GOOD INTELLIGENCE” including ‘your faith’ and etc.

So anyways, off on this ‘tangent’ for a moment……………… There I am driving along on the highway from Pocatello to Idaho Falls heading home…… after some sales calls in Pocatello……… we had just moved there from Carmel Valley the 1st time……… approximate year….. 1992-1993………..

I’m searching for a station on the radio when I ‘stumble across’ …….. Calvary Satellite Network….. so the guys talking about something and I start listening…….. He’s reading the Bible I detect and find myself interested in his ‘words’……….. he is using a personal illustration to provide a story of the impact of ‘this section’ of scripture………… he closes with a ‘there’s a new Calvary Chapel Church in Idaho Falls started by Pastor Rick Brown ………………. if your in the area…….. Check it out ‘ ……… the guy who was talking was Pastor Mike Kesstler Calvary Chapel of Twin Falls………

The words he used and the passage of scripture he quoted ‘were’ Powerful…….. And I decided to ‘check it out’ with the family the following Sunday ………. SO my experience with Calvary Chapel would begin…………..

What follows is ‘again’ My Story and what I experienced as being part of Calvary Chapel of Idaho Falls for 10+ years with the last 5+ as part of the ‘Staff‘…………. These words will sound condemning to some, confirming to others and its about time to even more…….. DO I think God is not found within Calvary Chapel ….. ? Not at all…….. But I think ‘Man’ is found ‘In Calvary Chapels Style of Leadership’ and always remember these words……. ULTIMATE POWER CORRUPTS ……….. even in Church …………………… oh yea …….. Ultimate Power Corrupts……. always

So the first (5) years we as a family participated in the Church and on occasion helped out as well…….. It was a pleasant experience and quite frankly I ‘did enjoy it’………. ‘for the most part, I believe so did the family too………………. The ‘Church’ grew from 12+ to 1200 + just before I left to move to Montana….

The ‘Cult of Calvary Chapel’ ……… My Story………….. by Keith Grant

So after (5) years we had ‘been praying’ about what to do with a house in California that I was ‘trying to sell to recover my initial investment and my mothers’ original 75k investment……. I was ‘loosing’ $1200 a month for the 60 month time period and ‘yes’ that equates to a negative -$72,000 in the hole on my 5 year income……… I was ‘blessed‘ with a good income stream at the time so I was able to handle the negative…… all be it difficult ………………. ‘we’ did handle it…….. I am using ‘quotations’ on words in this story to ‘highlight’ words that are used within the Cult of Calvary Chapel…….. I will list some later… as well in bold type…..

SO, ……………….. we decide (I do) to move back to Carmel Valley and recover the house by taking it back from a couple that had it on a ‘lease to own’ by out contract that they could not execute……… “Dumb Ass” (me) had gone forward with the contract 18 +/- months before when it seemed right to do…. My ‘all seeing – all knowing’ Mother had ‘repeatedly’ told me to ‘dump it’ and I didn’t because I wanted to get her original investment back……… hence the economic nose dive of the ‘Original Grant Family’ with me at the wheel…….. hey Its the Truth and I call it the way it is INCLUDING I was a ‘Dumb Ass’ to hold onto it that long………. lol

So ‘we meet’ with the Pastor and he ‘prays for us‘ and off we go to Carmel Valley to rescue the house and my future ex-wife is excited to reconnect with her family and friends….. We get there and start going to a Calvary Chapel in Carmel Valley being led by a Pastor Moler (sp?)…….. one day I am sitting in Church and the Pastor is about to give a ‘Message‘ and he states they need someone to volunteer to teach Sunday School for the message as a Teacher didn’t show up…….. My future ex, – wife gets wrestles and I raise my hand so I can ‘bless her‘ with hearing the ‘message‘ without the interruptions of the children (ours)…… so off I go with a ‘mission‘ in hand…….. I thought…… (remember, I am using ‘quotations’ to show you some of Calvary Chapels words they use to ‘control‘ the people are shown in BOLD).

That night, I call the Browns house to talk to Pastor Rick and tell him I ‘served‘ in Sunday School,……..I was excited to make the ‘report‘……… He asked how I felt and how I liked it…….. ? We caught up on the going’s on of the old house I was taking back and everything up in Idaho Falls………

Later after a few months ( 3 +/- ), looking around I would notice the house ‘was trashed’ by the previous tenants and guess what, I am not a carpenter……. So I decided to ‘punt’ and worked out a deal with a man who said he would sell it for us ……………. he had a company called Sequoia Pacific Funding and also a 501c foundation called Faith And Family…………….. so everything sounded legit and off we went feeling we were ‘equally yoked‘ and the ‘mission‘ to return to Idaho Falls was launched….

We returned to Idaho Falls and after a few weeks were ‘invited to join’ the ‘leadership prayer meeting‘ on Saturday before the Sunday Service……. My future ex-wife and I went and A-M-Y volunteered to watch then young Colten ……… during the meeting Pastor Rick said the ‘Lord Put on My Heart‘ that you should be over Childrens Ministry (me)……. I was taken back and said “really”….. ? He said I could give him a response the next week but that I should ‘let him know as soon as I can’……. so anyways

We head home and I’m excited……….. after some discussion with Leah (future ex) I decide to ‘see what the Lords going to do‘ and accept the ‘volunteer position’. It started with taking over for another couple who had been ‘serving faithfully’ for quite some time……….. Over the next 5 years ‘the Lord would bless‘ the Children’s Ministry in Idaho Falls and when I left there was over 70 teachers and the Sunday School was seeing 350+ kids a weekend over 3 Services………………… I was over the Sunday School. I was also ‘serving‘ in the capacity of an assistant pastor at the 3B Juvenal Facility……. During that time I would see 500 + kids ‘come to the lord‘ and be “ Born Again “ by ‘accepting the Lord as their Savior “. Also, I was teaching the ‘New Believers Class’ as well as the ‘Calvary Chapel Distinctive’s‘ to people who ‘volunteered’ for Sunday School…….

So what’s the issue, …………………….. where’s the Cult your thinking …… right ? You must be attending a Calvary Chapel somewhere in the World I detect …… ? Calvary Chapel had grown at that time to over 2000 Churches around the World since starting in the 60′s during the Flower Power / Anti-War movement. That’s when Chuck started the Church……. As stated in the Distinctive’s

In the Calvary Chaple Distinctive’s it states Chuck started Calvary Chapel with a Bible Study as that is the way ‘all Calvary Chapels start’ with the ‘Word of God‘. According to the Distinctive’s of Calvary Chapel (they are called ‘what makes Calvary Chapel Distinct from Other Churches‘) …………….. Chuck would do a Bible study with everyone ‘sitting in a circle‘ reading the ‘word of God‘………. sounds harmless doesn’t it ? (Well in group therapy, they sit in a circle too….. and tell ‘there story‘)…… At Calvary Chapel and E-Free Church that’s called a ‘ Testimony ‘…………….

suggestion: don’t ever give your testimony, ever, some day I’ll buy you a beer and tell you why

Before leaving for Montana I would get a call from my ‘then wife’ that another ‘pastor’ at the Church was having a serious problem call him Pastor Dave as I can’t remember his last name. He had gone from Idaho Falls and left his wife and 5 kids…….. He was in Southern Utah at the time…….. My future ex told me and asked if I was into going down there, Calvary Chapel of Idaho Falls would pay for the gas……. I said sure…… ‘Being lead by the Spirit‘ and would make the drive……… I was in Montana on business at the time……….. omg

Off off I went to rescue Pastor Dave………..

Fast forward to today and here’s some of the things I would find out about these ‘stories’………… above in no particular order………

  • Pastor Dave had been caught having sex with my future ex-wife at Church during the week

  • When we arrived back in Idaho Falls, shortly there after my future-ex discovered she was pregnant with another mans child so she spoke with Pastor Rick who ‘then’ told me he was ‘lead by the Spirit‘ to put me over the Sunday School. ( FYI: I don’t give a shit who his father is, he’s my son and if you don’t like it not only can shove it up your ass, I will shove the closest available thing I can find up you ass if you try to tell him other wise…. I’m not kidding. Be warned…… I’m done on this issue……. he’s my boy….. and I’m the MAN)…..

  • The Children’s Ministry at the church was being ‘forced to grow’ by Pastor Rick adding More Services to ‘see if the Lord Brings more people‘ and ‘see if the Lord will bless us‘….. all the time, I’m scrambling and trying to find enough Sunday School Teachers to cover the Service

  • Calvary Chapel has the Model from Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa the Original Church that Chuck Smith started to ‘not encourage‘ people to bring their kids int the ‘service’…… because Chuck feels’ they can ‘distract from the message‘ for those who are trying ‘to be fed‘…….

  • My daughter was begging me to take her out of the Private School and put her into the public school because she felt she was being treated unjustly by her 7th grade teacher … So I being ‘on staff‘ arranged a meeting………….. with the Principal and School Pastor, Pastor Scott Brown, Pastor Ricks Brother…….

  • At the meeting, I was listening to both the Principal and Pastor describe how on some minor issue they had handled the situation with Amy. And she was a ‘distraction‘ at times in the Class…… I think at that time, there was 3-4 girls in the class and 6-8 boys……. my daughter then as now was/is beautiful………… she was saying nothing, just looking at me…… I asked, how is she a distraction to the class……. ? The Principal said, ‘well as an example, when she looks up and or looks around the class, all the boys stop and don’t pay attention’…… and that makes them ‘stumble in their walk‘……………. at this point – “ I’m looking at Amy my daughter and both the Principal and Pastor are staring at me ” ……………..

  • My response was heated ; “ she can’t help it that shes beautiful “ ……….. and it’s not her fault that when she looks up….. all the guys check her out ”……. The pastor and principal were taken back when I said that…….. After all…….. you don’t want to do anything to make someone ‘stumble’ including if your a woman, wearing a mini dress to Church……. (too much leg)

  • They said something to the effect; “well Keith, what do you mean”

  • I said, “ look, this is ridiculous what your putting these kids through …….. THERE KIDS ……. let them be kids, …………… and it’s not a sin to check out a girl…… also…… (there was another kid from Sunday School that I knew was being singled out)….. so I was on the attack

  • I said; “ and your telling Jordan he has too much hair on his face and you have a full beard with 3-4” of facial hair…….. what’s that all about….. ?

  • Looking at my daughter I said….. “ I got it, were out of here “……. and drew her out of the school………….. effective immediately ……………

  • When I tried to place her in the local school, I found that the ‘Calvary Chapel Curriculum’ was not accepted by the School Board in Idaho Falls……… and she my daughter wold have to repeat 7th grade even though she had passed all tests with flying colors…..etc……. wow

  • SO, as a father I took of on another ‘mission’ to help my daughter and fix the situation with the Calvary Chapel School………… I was ‘told’ the problem with the Curriculum was the teachers were not ‘Certified’ and after 6th grade, that is an issue for the state of Idaho to accept the grades from the school…….

  • I was also informed, that was a ‘spiritual battle‘ between the Mormon’s and Calvary Chapel……. “what,….. ok I thought”

  • During the time at Calvary Chapel of Idaho falls, I witnessed Pastor Rick Brown describe various events in his life and situations to illustrate the scripture…….that was being read at the time…..

  • Also, I witnessed Pastor Rick Brown describe ‘the difference‘ between our Church and other churches in the Idaho Falls area…….. including other non-denominational Churches and including the Mormon Church…………….. these ‘stories’ were given to ‘illustrate‘ the ‘Distinctive of Calvary Chapel‘ so we knew ‘why were different‘ and ‘why this feels good

  • Many times, we would do ‘outreachesand see if it was ‘the Lords will‘ to ‘bless‘ the occasion and see how many people would ‘come to the Lord’ at the ‘outreach‘ ………

  • All my life, I knew I was going to end up in Montana…… it’s a long story but you can ask several people (long story) and others in my life………. Montana ‘was’ an objective

  • So, a few days before we were to leave, the Sunday School Teachers decided to give us a “going away party”………. it coincided with House Warming Party the Browns (Rick and Tammy) were throwing at the new house they had just bought on the River in Idaho Falls……. the party was for those ‘in ministry‘ and ‘the staff‘………. we, my future ex-wife and children were not invited to the event…….

Later I would find out some interesting things about all that time in my families life…….. aspects that will make the above……. even more clear to those who are reading this far………

But remember, I said this is not a vendetta ………………. it’s the truth and the truth always wins out in ‘any situation’………………………. watch…….

Things I found out later and knew already -

  • Pastor Chuck Smith is a Child Molester and also has had affairs in the past including with escort services.

  • Pastor Rick Brown is Gay

  • There is ‘no’ training for Pastors that are being ‘Lead‘ or ‘Sent Out‘ to start a Church on how to handle Management of the Church, Finances, Personal Management and Conflicts

  • Calvary Chapel is a ‘Men’s Club’ meaning, the Pastor is ‘overseer‘ of every major decision for the church including all of the above………. there is no Church Board to take the load off the Pastor etc….. Everybody in the Church on staff or in ministry has to accept his decisions as ‘the will of God‘……. etc……

  • When major decisions are made in a local church, like Idaho Falls….. they are ‘checked off’ with the main church for that region, in this case it is Calvary Chaple of Boise, Pastor Bob Caldwell who ‘agrees or makes a suggestion’ of what too do…. He then later informs the other Calvary Chapel Churches so they are ‘all of one mind‘ on the situation ….. in case anyone asks…. (that’s called collusion/ per Keith Grant)

  • If something happens at a ‘new church or church plant’ that the church doesn’t have enough people to continue….. then those left can ‘just fall back‘ into the main church that the whole thing came from in the first place …………….

  • Some Control Words to consider -

  • Get Plugged In – like we have extension cords to charge our Spirit….. lol

  • We Read Through the Scripture Verse by Verse…… like other Churches do not

  • Lets see what the Lord does……………. ok…………………….

  • Get Feed……….. listen to the Word of God as spoken at Church

  • Give an Illustration in a message……. showing ‘my’ experience to confirm the scripture

  • That’s WORKS ……………… not being lead by the spirit but your pride

  • The Lords not in that……….. explaining why something has failed…..

  • I’m waiting for a conformation…….. waiting for someone else to confirm what you feel the Lord is telling you

  • I’m praying for you………… I think your screwed up so I’m gong to pray for you (some cases this is true)……. others its a lol

  • A little leaven, leaven’s the lot…. partial quote form scripture that ‘those people have to go’ aka leave the church …………

  • The Message……….. Calvary Chapel does not give Sermons they give messages….

  • Where’s the fruit ? ……………. if the Lord is in it, he will bless it with ………

  • If the Lords in it ……………. see above

  • The Sheep ………………. the people who attend the Church are called sheep…

And I could go on and on on the Control Words and other stuff……….. but this was just a short overview of my experience and My Story…………….

Further-

The Calvary Chapel ‘experience’ has left me with good and bad feelings toward Non-denominational Churches……..

Calvary Chapel has no professional management and or controls in place……

The people attending are the sheep that are being feed the word of God by the man who has received a calling of God which is confirmed by the fruit of the ministry………. what…. did you get all that ?

How about the Catholic Church is also ‘old and steeped in tradition‘ and is more of a Religion then people being “lead by the Spirit” by their Faith………. they are in a cult of ‘Religiosity‘ and are trapped.

You know, I used to listen to the above and smile and enjoy the Message ……….. along with everyone else……… then one day in Idaho Falls……. it came to me…….. ‘the scripture does not say to read rumors and back bite others’ loose interpretation……… and I realized I was in a CULT ………. and I had to get out…….. so I knew they Pastor Rick and Tammy Brown and Gordon Boyle….. would ‘not feel a conformation for me moving to Montana ‘………… but I did…………. and I had to do it for my family, specifically my Children………… that was my motivators…………….. so I initiated a plan

Little did I know, after moving there………. Calvary Chapel was following my every move………in Montana……. wtf ?

In my opinion, Calvary Chapel is a Cult………. but YOU make YOUR OWN Decision………. I did and ‘don’t blame it on me’ which ever way you go……… I know this…… I did and ‘were out’ even if Calvary Chapel ‘still’ considers the Grant Family…… original and/or restructured ‘PART of Calvary Chapel‘…..because the ‘love us‘..! ……………….. DID you get that ? ……………….. !!

This is why I say ‘bury me Roman Catholic’ as the ‘Church of Calvary Chapel’ as attacked other Churches…………. including the Catholic Church….. among others…… well Calvary Chapel ‘world wide’ in the Word of God……….. Jesus says; “Upon this Rock I will build my Church” and last I looked, to date Jesus has not made any mistakes…….. anywhere…… and I’m Born Again and don’t give a Crap what you think about that ……. it’s between God and me……. check out 1st Samuel 10:6 and you’ll see that is not exclusive to the New Testament…………………… and That Changes Everything doesn’t it ?

here’s the download: The Cult of Calvary Chapel

ps: Good Bye ………………..

  • http://www.truthaboutthecia.org Keith Grant

    Question of the Day: Can anyone tell me ‘why’………. Rick Brown is Driving Around Plzen, Czech Republic………………. as we (speak) aka or I Type…………………. ?

    What the Fuck ……………………………………………………. ?

    Seriously………………………………… Calvary Chapel ‘IS’ ……… A Cult……. TRUTH

  • John 555 Smith

    Interesting article. Sounds like a lot of bad things have happened to you (Keith) at CCIF. I go to CCIF and sometimes participate in their ministries (you were over the Sunday School when I taught Sunday School). You were a good person and did a good job while you were at CCIF. I have noticed other people like you that are good people and really contribute a lot with their talents to CCIF. But somehow they disappear and we (the sheep) never hear what happened to them. Thank you for telling your story.

    • kgrant7858

      Thanks John,

      And I remember you as well and echo your comments back to you.

      AS for the ‘after CCIF ‘ everybody has there own walk. And now you know the rest of my story.
      As well as what I concluded when looking at the scripture and the ministry of Calvary Chapel ‘ World Wide ‘ not just CCIF.

      Thanks – Keith

  • http://www.truthaboutthecia.org/ TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

    Shout out to Chuck Smith and ‘All the Pastors’ of Calvary Chapel Worldwide -

    Here’s a couple of other reasons that ‘Your A Cult’:

    You’ve taken your ‘Model’ for Leadership from the Old Testament. And not the way it was during Jesus time with the 12 Apostles who made all the decisions for where they would stay and how they would eat. Until the (2) Messages on the Mount and the last Supper.

    You gave Paul a Church and God didn’t do that. Because Paul was an Evangelist and had the gift of HELPS. And that’s exactly ‘what’ Paul did is HELP other Church’s and give Sermons to the Masses.

    You Calvary Chapel have taken Scripture ‘out of context’ and Removed God from his ‘actual works’ in the Scripture.

    And in doing so, lead some off the Cliff of Life without even knowing it.

    Romans 10:9 = Works for Salvation (it did for me)

    John 1:1 = In the Beginning was The Word that Became Flesh and Dwelt Among Us

    read the above until you get it

    Keith Grant

    TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

  • Cindy Hagenbaumer

    Sir,

    I am sorry for your losses. It is obvious that you have been terribly hurt; may the Lord bless you and keep you make His face to shine upon you and give you peace.

    I sense a deep rooted bitterness in “your testimony” I’ll be praying that God in His infinite wisdom not judge your sins too harshly as it seems you have done for your brothers in His body.

    I understand the Scripture to say that when I am wrong- it is I who confess my sins, so if in fact these people have sinned against you I am certain that the LORD will take their sins into account, unless of course they have confessed, repented and are free of them.

    Man’s capacity for forgiveness is so shallow, but Jesus said if we do not forgive we cannot be forgiven. It is my sincere hope that you’ll be able to forgive those who have hurt you so that you’ll be able to overcome the venom in your heart that would make you attack a great work of GOD in a time when our country desperately needs the LORD and His direction.

    I am a missionary in Mexico and recognize that the USA is in deep trouble spiritually, so if you are actually a believing Christian I wish you would consider another way of helping the Body of Christ, that instead of drawing people away from where they can actually hear the Word of God maybe directing them to a place where they can receive the WORD in a better way.

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    • http://www.truthaboutthecia.org/ TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

      Cindy,

      You are ‘not qualified’ to ‘detect a root of bitterness’ which is ‘also’ a Key Word used within the CULT of Calvary Chapel. See download

      I am a ‘willing witness’ to the CULT of Calvary Chapel and will testify in Court.

      You see, Chuck Smith has given Paul a Church and God didn’t do that. He (Paul) had the gift of HELPS so he went to many Church’s and provided Correction to the Church’s..

      Put it this way, contact Pastor Raul Reese

      About the CULT of Calvary Chapel

      Remember, the CAY SET aside for the Lord is ‘they 7th day’

      NOT ‘every day’ which is how a CULT Operates

      Sound Familiar ?

      Keith Grant
      TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

      • Cindy Hagenbaumer

        Mr. Grant,

        In Deuteronomy 29:18 Moses spoke of a root of bitterness which rises up in the heart of any who seek after the “wrong gods”; also, the author Hebrews 12:15 spoke of the root of bitterness which comes after having been disciplined by the LORD. Men having bitterness in their hearts is biblical, not from any “church or denomination”.

        I discern from your writings that you are a man who had very high expectations of human beings, who by our very nature are all sinners. Were you seeking God or something from the men whose names you mentioned? Because from the language you use you sound very angry with God along with those men and nowhere in your writings do you seem to be submitted to God or even in favor of God.

        Ephesians 5:1-11 Then become imitators of God, as beloved children, and walk in love, even as Christ also loved us and gave Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for an odor of a sweet smell. But let not fornication, and all uncleanness, or greediness, be named among you, as is fitting for saints; also baseness, and foolish talking, or joking, but rather thanksgiving. For be knowing this, that every fornicator, or unclean one, or covetous one, who is an idolater, has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for through these things the wrath of God comes on the sons of disobedience. Then do not become partakers with them; for you then were darkness, but are now light in the Lord; walk as children of light. For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth, proving what is pleasing to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them.

        I have only wanted to gain a better understanding of what motivates someone who says they were in leadership over children to hold such contempt in their hearts for other people who are merely sinners just like you. I’ll keep you in my prayers and those of my sisters here in Mexico.

        The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

        Cindy

        • http://www.truthaboutthecia.org/ TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

          Cindy,

          Get out of the Old Testament, your living in the time of Grace. So liver there. Use the Old Testament as a Guide for the New Testament.

          After all, If Moses ‘was’ not ‘wandering back and forth in the Desert due to trying to keep all the people happy. He would have walked ‘straight’ to the Promised Land which was ‘estimated at a 5 day walk’ from the time he left the Pyramids.

          As for the comment on ‘people who served in Children’s Ministry.

          Do NOT quote Rick or Tammy Brown to me ‘now’ or in the future.

          They ‘are’ Slave Drivers for any and all in Ministry at their Church, ask ‘anyone’ who serves there, then tell them to be Honest.

          As for the other comments you make, prayer is good for all.

          And remember, THE DISTINCTIVE’S ‘of Calvary Chapel ‘are’ Based on Moses Walk. AND Paul’s Ministry.

          SO, from the Beginning:

          Chuck Smith, Based ‘His Distinctive’s’ On Moses Walk and Paul having a Church and Moses ‘form of Government’ which was an ‘Oligarchy’ Definition Below:

          ol·i·gar·chy [ol-i-gahr-kee]

          noun, plural ol·i·gar·chies.

          1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

          2. a state or organization so ruled.

          3. the persons or class so ruling.

          ‘SO’ The Net Answer Is: Calvary Chapel ‘is a Cult’ due to the Following Reasons:

          a) The Form of Government is an Oligarchy (see above)

          b) The ‘Distinctive’s of Calvary Chapel ‘are’ based on Moses ‘not’ on Jesus-es Ministry and For of Government (12 Apostles)
          c) He gave Paul a Church, meaning many of Calvary’s Distinctives and Passions are based on Paul. Not Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

          Trust me, I have ‘nothing against the Apostle Paul in fact, I came to my relationship with Christ ‘through Paul’s writings. After all, he only wrote 1/2 of the new Testament. He ‘just never had a Church’.

          SO in closing. Any Church which ‘demand’s More Then a Sunday from the people who are ‘serving for free, or on staff’. AND has people ‘dispersed’ around the world to ‘come to the aid’ of a Fallen Person who’s ‘Back Slid-en’ when in fact.

          He realized, that the Church was a Cult, by reading the Scripture and ‘comparing it’ to the Actions of the Leaders of the Church.

          And then concludes, It’s a Cult. And starts focusing on his life and the lives of his Children.

          Then, get’s Framed after His Son-In-Law is Murdered and the trial for his Son-In-Law’s Murder puts him in a situation where he cannot talk to his daughter ‘while’ she is putting people in Prison for the rest of their lives.

          Due to GAG Orders and Restraining Orders

          That Church ‘IS A CULT’

          Nothing against some of the people who go there, some are very nice and sociable.

          ‘Don’t drink the Punch’

          Keith Grant
          TRUTHABOUTTHECIA.ORG

    • John D

      In Calvary Chapel Distinctives by Church Smith, he says, “So when we came to Calvary Chapel and established the bylaws, we didn’t create a Presbyterian form of government (ruled by a board of elders). It was more of an Episkopos form of government (ruled by a Bishop) for Calvary Chapel. We believe that God’s model is that the pastor is ruled by the Lord and aided by the Elders to discover the mind and will of Jesus Christ for His church. This in turn is implement by the Assistant Pastors.” Chuck Smith does a good job describing the Biblical justification of the model for the church in his book.

      However, if you study cults then this model is a set up for failure. I would not say that all Calvary Chapels are cults but that their organization system is set up to enable a cultic system.

      From Dr. Margaret Singer, “A cult describes a political power structure of an organization. A cult describes one person at the top who may have other helpers.” She says that a cult is not a pyramid structure but more of a T structure with one person at the top of the T and everyone else on the upside down part of the T. She says that not all cults are religious in nature. But says that things like the USMC and AA are not cults because the people volunteering for these organizations know what they are getting into (they are not being deceived). She says that cult leaders are self-appointed persons who claim to have a special mission or special knowledge in life. Cult leaders tend to be charismatic and to use the folk art of social and psychological persuasion to get a following. She says that some cult leaders started out by thinking that they had a good idea but when they came to see how easy it was to get followers, they became corrupted. The old saying “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely” Another thing for cults is that the organization is set up so that no negativity or criticism is permitted.

      Dr. Margaret Singer says, “Cultic relationships are those relationships in which a person intentionally induces others to become totally or nearly totally dependant on him or her for almost all major life decisions. It cultivates in these followers a belief that he or she has some special talent, gift, or knowledge.”

  • 01_Explorer_01

    calvary chapel is a cult

  • MG

    It is true they are a cult. I watched them destroy a family member who attended them. From the day they announced building that place I knew it was a bad deal. My mother claimed we would start going there…well you ask her today and she will tell you they are a cult. I have only met Scott and let me tell you, that man surely did try some tricky stuff at me but met a very nasty wall that had him running scared. After that they went after my family member and destroyed them. I have never met his brother but I know for a fact he would be a challenge. They are what a lot of people would call ‘psychic vampires’ where they feed off the human psyche. Scott is very weak in this area but Rick has more pull. But that is just my beliefs. Even other Christians that I know refer to them as something else (can’t remember) but even they say to stay away from that place. So unless you want to have your whole life come crashing down upon you and you lose your children and your sanity then go right ahead and attend services there…just make sure someone has BHC on speed dial!

  • kgrant7858

    Everyone has there own experience when coming to the Lord……. however the first order of business should be focusing on ‘your growth’ with the Lord through reading the Bible every day…….. After that….. it’s a personal journey…… and it’s YOURS to enjoy and own………

    Good Luck…….